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Suzuki GS 850G

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Make Model

Suzuki GS 850G

Year

1981 - 82

Engine

Four stroke, transverse four cylinders, DOHC, 2 valve per cylinder.

Capacity

843 cc / 51.4 cu in
Bore x Stroke 69 х 56.4mm
Cooling System Air cooled
Compression Ratio 8.8:1

Induction

4 x mm Mikuni carburetors

Ignition 

Transistorized 
Starting Electric & kick

Max Power

57.1 kW / 77.6 hp @ 9.000 rpm

Max Torque

65 Nm / 6.6 kgf-m 47.9 lb-ft @ 7.500 rpm

Transmission

5 Speed
Final Drive Shaft

Front Suspension

Telescopic forks, 3-way adjustable spring preload

Rear Suspension

Dual shocks, 2-way preload and 4-way damping adjustments

Front Brakes

2 x 275mm Discs

Rear Brakes

Single 275mm disc

Front Tyre

3.50-19

Rear Tyre

4.50-17
Dimensions Length: 2235 mm / 88.0 in
Width:     735 mm / 28.9 in
Height:  1145 mm / 45.1 in
Seat Height 785 mm / 30.9 in
Ground Clearance 160 mm / 6.3 in

Wet Weight

253 kg / 557 lbs

Fuel Capacity 

22 Litres / 5.8 US gal / 4.8 Imp gal

Consumption Average

5.5 L/100 km / 18.3 km/l / 43 US mpg / 51.6 Imp mpg

Top Speed

191 km/h / 119 mph
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Road Test

 PLENTY. OF THE MOTORCYCLES WE TEST are good enough, on balance, to be worthy ot the famous (and mythical) Cycle Seal of Approval. Suzuki's new GS850. by virtue of conspicuous merit displayed in all the standard categories of evaluation, easily earns the Seal—with laurel clusters, which is an award our jaded test riders bestow on a motorcycle they judge to be simply, totally and supremely nice. Not the fastest thing on two wheels; not absolutely the best handling; not the most comfortable. Just perfectly nice, in ways that make you want to ride when the weather report says you shouldn't and leave you with a warming residue of regret long after the days of riding are done.

You may be thinking, as we did, that Suzuki should have developed the GS850 from the GS1000 instead of basing it on the GS750. Shaft-drive machines do carry more weight than their chain-gang brethren and the lighter, more muscular, larger-displacement engine would seem to have been a better starting point. Suzuki had good reasons for the choice they made. One was that many insurance actuaries recoil in horror from all motorcycles with engine displacements above 900 cubic centimeters, especially those owned by young men Viewed in that light Suzukis decision to stretch the GS750 makes sense. There's more than the expense of manufacturing in the ultimate cost of motorcycle ownership, and Suzuki didn't want to price the new shaftie beyond the typical young man's reach.

Another reason for using the GS750. rather than the newer GS1000. was that when the decision had to be made, the latter was still very new. White the 1000 looked good in pre-production testing and while there was no reason to doubt the 1000's reliability, the GS750 had been in service long enough to have absolutely proven itself. Further, the GS750 engine actually was—and is—stronger. Suzuki's engineers pared weight out of the GS1000 in hundreds of small slices, taking it even from the main bearing supports and crank cheeks.

They now know the paring wasn't overdone, but that hadn't been demonstrated back when the shaft-drive project was begun. The GS850's engine basically is a 750 with bigger (69 millimeters versus 65mm) pistons. Its cams were borrowed from the GS1000, which also provided the 850's helical-cut primary gears. Suzuki nudged the displacement upward to compensate for the effects of an anticipated weight increase and opted for the helical clutch-drive gearing because that's quieter and stronger than a set of straight-cut cogs of the same diameter and width. Apart from the pistons and cams, no engine changes were made and we have no complaints about that. When you already have a substantially state-of-the-art DOHC engine, there's little reason for major changes to be made.

Suzuki's creative urges obviously did find an outlet when the GS850's final-drive layout was being designed. The problem is to turn the drive 90 degrees behind the transmission and direct it back to a BMW-esque gear housing at the rear wheel hub. And to provide a drive-shock cushion to protect the whole drive tram, which will be more tightly tied together than it is when a chain and sprockets aro used. Others have resorted to transfer shafts and gears behind the transmission and/or separate bevel gear housings. But Suzuki grafted the necessary additions onto their existing shafts, taking advantage of available width and holding to the bare minimum the number of gears involved in transmitting power to the wheel. To do all this. Suzuki enlarged the bore in the hollow transmission input (forward) shaft and replaced the clutch release rod with a long, slender drive shaft connecting the clutch hub and the spring-loaded dnve cushion. (A pull-type clutch release replaces the pushrod mechanism used in the GS750.) Power feeds from the inboard end of the drive cushion straight into the transmission's input shaft, where it is routed across the gears in conventional fashion to (he output shaft and. via a shod extension, to the bevel gears.

The bevels are placed about where the GS750 has a sprocket but are within the widened transmission cases. It must be stressed here that the width we're talking about is just dead space behind decorative covers in the chain-drive Suzukis; there has been no increase in the distance the rider has to straddle with his feet. Indeed, the only obvious external difference between the GS750 and GS850 is that the tetter's rear transmission wall is blank instead of having a chain cavity. Nothing shows outside but the flanged attachment for the drive shaft's U-joint. which is of the conventional automotive "Hooke" type rather than the more expensive constant-velocity coupling.

Suzuki's choice of U-jomts may partly account for the elaborate system of elastic couplings in the drive train. The angular displacement of the Hooke-type joint's yoke produces cyclic speed changes In the rotating shaft, when the joint is working at an angle, and this can generate a torsional vibration. Suzuki may have had that in mind when the GS850 was given rubber-loaded bushings between its final drive gears and rear wheel, a spring-loaded face-cam cushion between clutch and transmission, and the usual set of shock-cushioning springs in the clutch itself. The arrangement works: there is no appreciable transmission-related vibra-tion-and very little of the drive-train lash we have all come to know and loathe in certain other motorcycles, mostly Yamahas in this regard.

Another point at which the GS850 is a lot better than most Japanese-made machines is its shifting action. Any of the present generation of motorcycles will stir their gears in reasonably orderly fashion if you apply a firm toe at the change lever The Suzuki needs nothing but a light dab and snicks from one gear to another so smoothly its rider has to get really sloppy to miss shifts. This is one of the little things that makes the GS850 such a pleasure to ride. We like the shift action so well we're almost willing to approve of Suzuki's trendy digital gear indicator lights, which display in bright red numbers the gear you've engaged. These numbers used to be formed by LEDs (Light Emitting Diodes) but Suzuki has switched to regular fitment-type bulbs behind red-tinted glass. The neutral indicator is still a green light, and it's still easier to get the bulb glowing than it is to actually get the transmission into neutral after the bike has stopped.

It's easy to predict which ot the gear indicator light bulbs will be the first to burn out. Somehow, perhaps with the added displacement and GS1000 cams, Suzuki has made the 750 engine into a solid low-speed lugger in the GS850. We still haven't devised a satisfactory means of hooking shaft-drive motorcycles to the Webco dynamometer, so we can't tell you with scientific certainty where the GS850's useful power begins. But the engine feels like it's ready for serious business at any crank speed from idle to the 9000-rpm redline.So. unless you want to do some shifting just for fun, you can short-shift your way to fifth and forget the lever is there. Top gear will take care of all speeds down to about 25 mph; the GS850 needs shifting only when you want speed in a hurry.

One of the more amazing things about the GS850 is that it is able to gather up a hurry when you want one. The bike is not only heavy for an 850, but heavy in the absolute sense. Top up its tank with fuel and it registers just over 600 pounds on a certified scale.

Yet the GS850 ran through the speed lights during our quarter-mile testing at 104.77 mph, which is motoring right along. Its weight showed only in the relatively slow elapsed time, a wink under 13 seconds, which reflected a sluggishness during the first 20 feet more than any reluctance about gathering speed once it was truly moving. We know a 600-pound 850 shouldn't have Superbike acceleration, especially when it's pulling tali gearing, but the GS850 does. It's only about as fast as a good 500 getting across the tirst halt ot an intersection, but from there on it feels like a 1000.

The GS850's suspension is a mixture of GS750 and GS1000 hardware. Its fork differs from that on the 750 only in having tubes that are 20mm longer, and the springs and air valves come directly from the GS1000. The rear shocks, which have four-stage adjustable rebound damping, are from the 1000 but carry different coil springs. Suzuki does not supply the pump and air gauge you sometimes get with a GS1000 to set the GS850's air-fork pressures. They provide a dial-type air gauge and instructions about how much pressure you should use in the fork tubes.

They should include their very best wishes because that's the least you'll need when you arrive at a service station ready to put some more air in the fork.

We found that adjusting the fork air pressure was a very difficult job without the GS1000 tool. It's easy to get the caps off the little valve stems (our test bike lost all its pressure when ridden with the caps off) and you don't need a special air chuck. But the quickest jab with the chuck we could manage put the pressure at 30 pounds per square inch and on most tries we sent it beyond the gauge's 40 psi scale.

We then learned to just tap at the valve stem to bleed off pressure—and found that each quick tap was worth a four psi pressure drop. We also discovered that merely checking the pressure with the gauge reduced the pressure by about two psi. It wasn't easy to fiddle the pressure where we wanted it.

The only reason this adjustment won't be a big problem for GS850 owners is that they won't have to do it otten. For all practical purposes, it's purely a ride-height adjustment. Owners will lind it useful in compensating tor the weight ot a big windshield fairing, and the spring-sag that comes with many mites of riding. We found no difference in ride with fork pressures varied between zero and 30 psi. and onty small variations in handling (at cornering speeds somewhat more lurid than the sane motorcyclist would enjoy). Rear suspension adjustments were easier and produced larger differences.

The usual adjustable lower spring collar is there and. as usual, it sets only the bike's rear ride height. You crank up preload if you're going to carry a passenger or it you want more cornering clearance. The other, less familiar adjustment is in the shocks' rebound damping; this one is made by turning the knurled collars under the rubber weather boots just below the upper shock eyes. And on some surfaces there is no perceptible difference between "1" (the softest setting) and "4" (full-resistance). One stretch ot nde-quai-ity test road we use has a wavy surface, with about 10 feet between crests and a couple of inches from crest to trough. On that road the GS850's ride did not change when we ran Ihrough the range of damper settings. And the ride was good. Those undulations send most motorcycles into a fierce hobby-horse pitching when traveled at 50 mph; the GS850 only nodded going across them.

The damper adjustment did make a difference on choppy surfaces (i.e. cracked, patched and pitted pavement) and in the GS850's cornering behavior. Specifically, the higher-number settings felt like compression damping stiffness.

Apparently, lots of sharp ripples cause the dampers to pump down, effectively stiffening the springs and making the suspension more harsh. This effect was felt when cruising along, riding solo, on rough roads, and it made the GS850 chattery when cornering fast on smooth surfaces. Both conditions disappeared when the damper resistance was reduced. In truth, you can't really fault the GS850's handling. We noted a little fork stiction-retated front suspension harshness, which might well have been correctable by loosening and retightening the axle clamps, but that had no influence in cornering. With its fork pressurized to 15 psi and its rear damping at "2" the Suzuki was as near perfection as a 600-pound motorcycle is likely to be anytime soon. Its steenng is absolutely neutral, and the motorcycle is both agile and astonishingly steady after you've levered il into a turn.

The IRC "Grand High Speed" tires seem to cope wilh the load extremely well, and only the intimidating thought of what it might be like to wrestle 600 pounds of sliding motorcycle acts to keep one's enthusiasm in check. You just know that if so much mass gets out of control, it's going to stay beyond control a long, exciting time. Otherwise.the GS850 will let you play canyon-racer all you like, or at least as much as you think you can get away with. The GS850 doesn't (perhaps due to its sheer weight) display the typical shaft-drive bike's power-on/power-off attitude. The refined suspension components aside, a lot of the GS850's excellent road manners have their foundations in the frame and attachments Suzuki has provided. Suzuki clearly has come to treat frame rigidity seriously, They use stout tubing and plenty of gussets and struts, and the GS850 says the approach is working splendidly. Suzuki also has switched to tapered-roller steering-stem bearings, which are free from the pitting that has begun to afflict the overloaded ball bearings still occasionally used in big bikes. Tapered rollers' greater capacity for withstanding abuse make them a good—if expensive—choice. The GS850 has them at its steering stem, and the swing arm pivots on them also.

Evaluation of braking performance has been changed by the introduction of hydraulics and discs into motorcycling. Back in the bad old days of drum-braked big bikes, stopping power was a sometime thing. But sheer braking force almost never is lacking with discs, especially when-as is the case with the GS850-you have a dual-front, all-disc system. So you think in terms of controllability, the tire/road connection, and whether the chassis can take heavy braking loads without flexing completely out of alignment. The Suzuki had impressive scores in all three categories: its brakes are smooth, powerful and precise; the tires do their job better than the GS850's weight should allow; and the chassis doesn't develop any ideas of its own. The importance of total controllability under mixed braking and cornering should not be underestimated. For some riders it's part of their style, but for anyone who allows sporting spirit to lead him in harm's way (and into a turn that proves tighter than it looked) it becomes a like-it-or-not necessity. Cycle's test riders, to their shame and occasional sorrow, get themselves into such predicaments rather often, and some of their affection for the GS850 comes from its willingness to combine vigorous braking and turning.

Source Cycle magazine 1979

Motorcyclist 1983 review

Styling seems to be the major factor in a buyer's decision to purchase a motorcycle. That's fine for buyers whose primary interest is image and profile, but paying too much attention to style can sometimes cause one to overlook other important factors.

A lot of people have overlooked the Suzuki GS850G. After all, it is rather conservatively styled, without the head-turning rakishness of a cruiser, the hyperkinetic lines of an all-out sport bike, or the opulence of a full-dress tourer. The GS850's plainness has won it a special— but not cherished—spot in Suzuki showrooms. In fact, Suzuki dealers are getting tired of looking at 850Gs, since models from as far back as 1981 are still available. Even though it won our annual comparison tour in 1979, we, too, hadn't given much thought to the plain-looking GS850. We never would have tested it had it not been for the usual year-end slowdown in test bikes, which sent us scrambling to find a bike that would still be available and relevant in 1984.

But as soon as the GS850G got here, a funny thing happened. As staff riders, jaded by the latest crop of superbikes, luxury tourers, and high-performance sporting bikes, rediscovered the 850, the enthusiasm and excitement we felt for the bike four years previously reappeared in each person who rode it. The GS850, you see, is an excellent motorcycle. It is extremely comfortable, handles as well as all but the most sporting bikes, is fast enough for anyone without some sort of glandular problem, and is reliable. In fact, the GS850G has the distinction of being one of those bikes that keeps charming its owners years after the new paint has been scraped off. GS850 owners who write or call us invariably mention their bikes with affection and make comments like, "I really like that bike. It never gives me any trouble, and it is still fun after three years!" Since its release almost five years ago, we have not received more than two letters citing problems with the bike, which may constitute a record.

The 850 is not without weaknesses. It is a little slow to warm up, and throttle response is slightly abrupt. Our experience (January '80) also indicates that it doesn't handle too well as a full-dress tourer, although it works quite well when lightly dressed, with a lightweight clear fairing and saddlebags, for example. Finally, it consumes just a bit more oil than comparable bikes.

Those are all of our complaints about the GS850. It has no glaring faults and is a genuine pleasure to ride in almost any situation. As a tourer, it surpasses many more narrowly focused pure tourers in comfort and range. It possesses one of the best saddles in the industry. The seat is flat and roomy and stays comfortable long after most seats have you squirming and wishing for the end of the road. There is enough latitude that riders of all sizes should be able to find a comfortable posture and still have space to shift their riding positions. The engine is remarkably smooth and quiet, and vibration simply isn't a problem.

The powerband is fairly wide, and the 850 is fast enough to break into the 12-second bracket consistently at the drag-strip. Once broken in (300 to 500 miles), clutch and gearbox action were exemplary. Ratios are well staged.

But the GS850 is more than an undressed tourer. It handles as well as all but the most dedicated of sport bikes. It steers with precision, stability, and confidence. Its tires are very good, and cornering clearance is generous. One of the remarkable characteristics of the GS850G has always been how little its shaft drive system affects handling; there is almost no rise and fall when you make major thrqttle-setting changes. Braking power is short of what some pure sporting bikes offer but is still more than adequate and without the mushiness of some other big Suzukis.

Although the GS850 doesn't have a long list of elaborate features—no LCDs or computers—it has more than just the essentials. A powerful H4 headlamp makes nighttime riding safer, and dual horns help at any time. The front suspension is adjustable for air pressure, and the_ fork tubes are linked by a balancing tube. The rear shocks have adjustments for rebound damping. Frills include a fuel gauge, self-canceling turn signals, and an accessory terminal. Since we last tested the 850 in 1980, it has acquired a blacked-out engine, a slightly lower seat, an aluminum grab rail, two-tone paint, a different gear indicator, a full-range speedometer, a sidestand warning light, and a change in the clutch lubrication system to reduce clutch drag slightly.

Source Motorcyclist 1983